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[SPEAKER_0] Hey everyone,

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[SPEAKER_0] thank you all for coming.

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[SPEAKER_0] Today we're going to be speaking with Maya.

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[SPEAKER_0] Thank you so much for being with us today.

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[SPEAKER_0] It really means a lot for us to spotlight someone who is so active in our community.

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[SPEAKER_0] So through this interview,

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[SPEAKER_0] we hope to get a sense of your role in the community.

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[SPEAKER_0] What and who you define as your community,

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[SPEAKER_0] and the ways you see health intersecting with your current work.

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[SPEAKER_0] So just to get us started,

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[SPEAKER_0] could you begin by telling me and us a little bit about yourself?

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[SPEAKER_1] Yes,

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[SPEAKER_1] thank you so much for having me.

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm so excited to be here,

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[SPEAKER_1] especially with someone as close as Shane in my life and bringing in

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[SPEAKER_1] his academic community is just so meaningful to me.

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[SPEAKER_1] I am.

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[SPEAKER_1] My name is Maya.

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[SPEAKER_1] I use she,

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[SPEAKER_1] they pronouns.

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm an early childhood educator,

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[SPEAKER_1] community organizer,

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[SPEAKER_1] and cultural worker from New York City.

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[SPEAKER_1] Born and raised in the South Street Seaport area.

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[SPEAKER_1] I am someone whose work is premised on revolutionary practice and

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[SPEAKER_1] collective liberation.

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[SPEAKER_1] Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_1] I graduated last May,

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[SPEAKER_1] 2025 with a bachelor's in social and cultural analysis.

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[SPEAKER_1] Which is a fancy term for sociology.

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[SPEAKER_1] and a minor in child and adolescent mental health studies.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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[SPEAKER_1] I aspire in the future to become some form of a curator,

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[SPEAKER_1] historian,

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[SPEAKER_1] archivist,

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[SPEAKER_1] understanding personal family histories and the interlinked

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[SPEAKER_1] histories of anti-colonial movements on a broader scale is something

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[SPEAKER_1] that is super meaningful to me in my research,

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[SPEAKER_1] in particular.

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[SPEAKER_1] And I.

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm very happy to keep talking.

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[SPEAKER_0] That's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_0] I was wondering,

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[SPEAKER_0] I know you personally,

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[SPEAKER_0] so I was wondering if you could speak a little bit about your role

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[SPEAKER_0] at the Children's Museum and the research that you're currently

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[SPEAKER_0] conducting through the Center for Puerto Rican Studies.

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[SPEAKER_1] So at the Children's Museum of Manhattan,

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[SPEAKER_1] I am a public programs educator.

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[SPEAKER_1] I design,

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[SPEAKER_1] teach,

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[SPEAKER_1] and facilitate public programs at the museum,

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[SPEAKER_1] which look anything from guest artist performances to daily

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[SPEAKER_1] programming with our early engineers and messy with art activities.

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[SPEAKER_1] I usually will be leading the classroom either in our makerspace

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[SPEAKER_1] area on the first floor where we'll be doing a bunch of arts and crafts.

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[SPEAKER_1] Here's one in particular: this is Miss Maya.

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[SPEAKER_1] I have now accumulated so many crafts.

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[SPEAKER_1] I never thought I'd accumulate this many crafts in my life and I

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[SPEAKER_1] facilitate anywhere from arts and cultural workshops to off-site activities.

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[SPEAKER_1] A great opportunity a couple months ago to go test out some new

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[SPEAKER_1] equipment for the new museum that's opening in 2028.

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[SPEAKER_1] And so we had a few groups of kids.

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[SPEAKER_1] And their parents come in and test out some new technology that will

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[SPEAKER_1] hopefully be infused in the next model.

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[SPEAKER_1] And as a teacher,

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[SPEAKER_1] my approach is very play-based.

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[SPEAKER_1] I love to meet children where they're at and start where their curiosity blooms,

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[SPEAKER_1] really emphasizing their interests and where they like to what kinds

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[SPEAKER_1] of materials they like to use,

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[SPEAKER_1] what kinds of subjects do they like to learn in school.

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[SPEAKER_1] And using the museum as a school in and of itself,

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[SPEAKER_1] in that it functions outside of the classroom but is still fostering

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[SPEAKER_1] a learning environment that may approach different topics that they

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[SPEAKER_1] were otherwise not exposed to if not coming to the museum.

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[SPEAKER_1] So that's Sea Mom.

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[SPEAKER_1] My Research at the Center for Puerto Rican Studies comes a lot.

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[SPEAKER_1] It was May or March of last year,

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[SPEAKER_1] 25.

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[SPEAKER_1] Lots of personal transformations happening at that time.

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[SPEAKER_1] I was gearing up to graduate.

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[SPEAKER_1] I was also on the job search as well.

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[SPEAKER_1] finishing finals.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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[SPEAKER_1] unexpected happened in that I lost my grandmother.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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[SPEAKER_1] that whole kind of world.

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[SPEAKER_1] shifting experience.

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[SPEAKER_1] I was really seeking community and ways to be involved.

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[SPEAKER_1] really honor the feelings and grief that I was going through.

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[SPEAKER_1] And one of my dearest friends,

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[SPEAKER_1] Sumaya,

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[SPEAKER_1] invited me to come to the Islamic Center at NYU.

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[SPEAKER_1] Where we were learning,

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[SPEAKER_1] in sister circle,

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[SPEAKER_1] the companions of the Prophet Muhammad,

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[SPEAKER_1] peace and blessings be upon him.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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[SPEAKER_1] I was so intrigued by all the badass women that we were learning

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[SPEAKER_1] about that I was like,

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[SPEAKER_1] I just want to learn more about this.

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[SPEAKER_1] So coupled with that and a class that I took that semester called

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[SPEAKER_1] 'Bad Asians.' an incredible class.

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[SPEAKER_1] I had my final with a professor and.

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[SPEAKER_1] we talked about this organization called Alianza Islamica.

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[SPEAKER_1] And I had no idea who they were and what they were about.

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[SPEAKER_1] But he knew that I was exploring Islam at the time.

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[SPEAKER_1] And he also knew my background and learning more about anti-colonial

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[SPEAKER_1] movements and especially as it relates to New York City,

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[SPEAKER_1] where I'm from.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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[SPEAKER_1] So he introduced me to Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_1] The group,

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[SPEAKER_1] of course,

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[SPEAKER_1] in research,

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[SPEAKER_1] alhamdulillah,

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[SPEAKER_1] now I'm almost in contact with one of the daughters of the founders of that panel.

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[SPEAKER_1] Also,

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[SPEAKER_1] it's it's really a whole circle.

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm just really wow.

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[SPEAKER_1] And so.

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[SPEAKER_1] My research project,

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[SPEAKER_1] called 'One Uma One Barrio Alianza Islamica and the Legacy of Muslim

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[SPEAKER_1] New Yorican Revolution,' interrogates how Those.

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[SPEAKER_1] New Yorican,

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[SPEAKER_1] New York Puerto Rican,

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[SPEAKER_1] Muslim,

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[SPEAKER_1] and American identities have interrelations and also tensions with each other.

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[SPEAKER_1] The group was made up of former Young Lords members and,

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[SPEAKER_1] as Shane knows,

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[SPEAKER_1] in my high school through college years,

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[SPEAKER_1] I was part of an organization called the Young Lords Collective,

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[SPEAKER_1] which was a grassroots artist activist collective that primarily

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[SPEAKER_1] bolstered the art and activism of young New Yorkers who confronted

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[SPEAKER_1] social issues like gentrification and redlining and inequitable school systems.

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[SPEAKER_1] And so,

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[SPEAKER_1] learning about the history of Alianza and that it stemmed from an

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[SPEAKER_1] inspiration of the Young Lords,

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[SPEAKER_1] the Black Panther Party,

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[SPEAKER_1] and other organizations— very similar to my own— radicalization journey,

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[SPEAKER_1] which was through the Young Lords,

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[SPEAKER_1] the Black Panther Party,

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[SPEAKER_1] and all those.

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[SPEAKER_1] Other organizations I found,

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[SPEAKER_1] and also now with the alignment of exploring a kind of faith-based,

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[SPEAKER_1] spiritual,

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[SPEAKER_1] political praxis,

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[SPEAKER_1] I found that it was a story that spoke very personally to me.

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[SPEAKER_1] And also very personally too,

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[SPEAKER_1] I think.

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[SPEAKER_1] New Yorkers and Muslims,

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[SPEAKER_1] converts,

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[SPEAKER_1] and those who grow up in the religion.

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[SPEAKER_1] Those who are curious,

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[SPEAKER_1] those who are radical.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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[SPEAKER_1] So that's what is the premise of my research,

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[SPEAKER_1] which will be tracing a historical trajectory of the group from

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[SPEAKER_1] their inception in the 1980s,

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[SPEAKER_1] about late 1970s,

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[SPEAKER_1] to early 2000s in East Harlem.

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[SPEAKER_1] and kind of bridging that with my own experiences in the Young Lords

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[SPEAKER_1] Collective and the legacy that these faith-based organizations and

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[SPEAKER_1] their political orientation and their approach towards to.

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[SPEAKER_1] confronting these social problems.

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[SPEAKER_1] with in mind,

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[SPEAKER_1] their faith is something that Young Lords Collective also kept in

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[SPEAKER_1] mind at certain points during our organization history.

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[SPEAKER_1] hot meals and groceries to community fridges during Ramadan.

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[SPEAKER_1] being a space where our own members,

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[SPEAKER_1] myself and Soumeya included,

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[SPEAKER_1] are proudly Muslim.

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[SPEAKER_1] Caribbean woman of the diaspora.

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[SPEAKER_1] And so,

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[SPEAKER_1] Inshallah,

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[SPEAKER_1] this will result in an archival research-based exhibition in August.

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[SPEAKER_1] Some venues pending.

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm really excited.

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm combing through the archives.

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm looking at some really cool documents that are older than me.

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm just really grateful to be here and to also share this with you guys.

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[SPEAKER_0] We will be sure to advertise One Uma,

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[SPEAKER_0] One Barrio when the time comes.

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[SPEAKER_0] In the works.

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[SPEAKER_3] So thank you so much for sharing,

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[SPEAKER_3] Maya.

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[SPEAKER_3] Sounds like you're super involved in the community through the Arts

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[SPEAKER_3] Museum and the research that you're working on.

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[SPEAKER_3] So I would like to ask,

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[SPEAKER_3] when you think about the word community,

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[SPEAKER_3] what comes to mind?

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[SPEAKER_3] How do culture,

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[SPEAKER_3] identity,

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[SPEAKER_3] or place shape your understanding of the community?

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[SPEAKER_3] And are there specific communities you feel most connected through

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[SPEAKER_3] your work or personal life?

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[SPEAKER_1] That's a good question.

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[SPEAKER_1] I think community is the foundation upon which I center my work.

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[SPEAKER_1] If it were not for the community of people who have supported me and

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[SPEAKER_1] who have also come before me,

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[SPEAKER_1] I would not have the interests and alignments that I have today.

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[SPEAKER_1] I even have a tattoo.

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[SPEAKER_1] My pretty much only one and only tattoo says, 'Our community is our

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[SPEAKER_1] strength.' So if that tells you anything.

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[SPEAKER_1] I think I resonate most with place-based belonging as something

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[SPEAKER_1] super important to me.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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[SPEAKER_1] Also,

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[SPEAKER_1] in my research for CENTRO,

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[SPEAKER_1] the Center for Puerto Rican Studies,

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[SPEAKER_1] and also honoring that.

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[SPEAKER_1] The land on which it was formed and conceptualized.

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[SPEAKER_1] Not only being indigenous Lenape land,

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[SPEAKER_1] but also through the migration of Puerto Ricans,

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[SPEAKER_1] Cubans,

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[SPEAKER_1] Haitians,

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[SPEAKER_1] Venezuelans,

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[SPEAKER_1] and Dominicans.

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[SPEAKER_1] All of those reading this diaspora in New York City,

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[SPEAKER_1] which was the building of the Chinatown Mega Jail on Center Street,

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[SPEAKER_1] It is wild that there's you go down the street,

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[SPEAKER_1] because it is inherently a political.

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[SPEAKER_1] Back to not only bear witness to these slow deaths of the neighborhood,

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[SPEAKER_1] but also confronted in a way that leverages our voices and takes

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[SPEAKER_1] and know the neighborhood and continue to want to live here.

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[SPEAKER_1] And so that I appreciate that question because community is

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[SPEAKER_3] Thank you so much for sharing and also raising awareness on what's

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[SPEAKER_4] All right,

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[SPEAKER_4] so we're going to pivot a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_4] And thank you so much for sharing your beautiful answers so far.

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[SPEAKER_4] They've been so well thought out.

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[SPEAKER_4] We love hearing about your work.

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[SPEAKER_4] So as public health students,

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[SPEAKER_4] we spend a lot of time thinking about health and well-being,

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[SPEAKER_4] but I think we'd love to hear a little bit about how you see health or public health,

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[SPEAKER_4] even if it's not labeled as explicitly.

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[SPEAKER_4] Show up in your work.

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[SPEAKER_1] I think health is that in the same way that housing,

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[SPEAKER_1] affordable access to food,

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[SPEAKER_1] all these social services,

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[SPEAKER_1] their political orientations are intertwined.

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[SPEAKER_1] In that.

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[SPEAKER_1] When you're fighting for free housing,

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[SPEAKER_1] you're also fighting for a healthier future.

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[SPEAKER_1] And a lot of that is rooted in,

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[SPEAKER_1] in my own anti-colonial understanding of movements in New York City.

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[SPEAKER_1] So.

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[SPEAKER_1] the Young Lords,

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[SPEAKER_1] health.

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[SPEAKER_1] housing.

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[SPEAKER_1] accessibility to their local hospital.

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[SPEAKER_1] I think,

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[SPEAKER_1] sovereignty,

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[SPEAKER_1] the local and that it was for.

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[SPEAKER_1] in New York City,

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[SPEAKER_1] but then the last it was thinking globally in the sovereignty and

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[SPEAKER_1] freedom of Puerto Rico and its independence.

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[SPEAKER_1] When we think about our health of our children.

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[SPEAKER_1] since I'm with kids all the time.

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[SPEAKER_1] It's imperative that we maintain the health standards and go above

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[SPEAKER_1] and beyond in ensuring that not only our guests,

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[SPEAKER_1] but community members around the museum who not necessarily come in

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[SPEAKER_1] also have privilege and right to a healthy living environment.

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[SPEAKER_1] There is it's interesting because oftentimes now,

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm faced with health problems that seem like common sense at first,

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[SPEAKER_1] but need to truly be reiterated and also a learning lesson and a

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[SPEAKER_1] educational moment too and not A lot of the people,

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[SPEAKER_1] we're often thinking a lot about the babies in mind.

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[SPEAKER_1] There's babies crawling around and learning how to walk and stand.

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[SPEAKER_1] develop those fine and gross motor skills.

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[SPEAKER_1] So in the museum,

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[SPEAKER_1] there's changing tables available in all the bathrooms.

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[SPEAKER_1] Believe it or not,

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm asking either caregivers or parents or guardians to go use the

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[SPEAKER_1] Because the caregiver notices,

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[SPEAKER_1] they need their diaper changed,

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[SPEAKER_1] and then we'll do it.

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[SPEAKER_1] Not all of them,

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[SPEAKER_1] There has been instances where on the spot I'll see,

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_1] Hi!

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[SPEAKER_1] We actually have changing tables available in every bathroom because

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[SPEAKER_1] it is a health hazard for you to change your child.

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[SPEAKER_1] Here in the public exhibit.

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[SPEAKER_1] And the spread of germs and our clean team at the museum is also incredibly amazing.

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[SPEAKER_1] They do such a good job.

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[SPEAKER_1] Responding to.

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[SPEAKER_1] That's for the museum and that.

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[SPEAKER_1] A lot of the daily issues that I see is raising awareness to the

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[SPEAKER_1] guardians that we have to not only keep in mind the health of our own children,

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[SPEAKER_1] but all of the children that enter the building at all times.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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[SPEAKER_1] In relation to my more explicitly political work.

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[SPEAKER_1] I understand health sovereignty as intersectional with food sovereignty,

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[SPEAKER_1] with housing sovereignty.

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[SPEAKER_1] And that's.

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[SPEAKER_1] Dedicated and drawn from the Black feminists who I've learned from.

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[SPEAKER_1] Who have certainly I didn't mind.

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[SPEAKER_1] the way I understand health.

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[SPEAKER_1] And understanding how we build.

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[SPEAKER_1] More livable futures is responding to health in ways that may not be explicitly linked.

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[SPEAKER_1] We need to have stable infrastructure for our buildings.

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[SPEAKER_1] It's not unheard of to hear stories of buildings in the Bronx

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[SPEAKER_1] collapse because the internal infrastructure is so weak.

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[SPEAKER_1] And you will also not— it's not unheard of to hear— Even today,

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[SPEAKER_1] of lead poisoning.

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[SPEAKER_1] Because these buildings are so inadequately maintained and that

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[SPEAKER_1] there is a very clear political line drawn.

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[SPEAKER_1] That when you don't take care of the homes in certain neighborhoods,

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[SPEAKER_1] you're telling that neighborhood that their lives do not matter.

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[SPEAKER_1] To my previous point,

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[SPEAKER_1] from an intersectional perspective.

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[SPEAKER_1] through housing,

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[SPEAKER_1] through food,

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[SPEAKER_1] through sovereignty for one's own life,

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[SPEAKER_1] I'm thinking also a lot about empire too and how we live within

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[SPEAKER_1] The-global north where all clap capital flows through,

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[SPEAKER_1] especially here in New York City as its epicenter.

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[SPEAKER_1] And so we also have to recognize Even with the disenfranchised

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[SPEAKER_1] We also have to recognize that the mass production that is is being

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[SPEAKER_1] made here in New York City.

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[SPEAKER_1] Is also at the expense of people globally in global south,

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[SPEAKER_1] and that there's a lot of there's a lot of labor and time in.

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[SPEAKER_1] Just being mindful that we live within.

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[SPEAKER_1] quote the belly of the beast and not There's.

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[SPEAKER_1] even despite the poor health outcomes in certain neighborhoods.

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[SPEAKER_1] which are direct result of that systemic inequality.

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[SPEAKER_1] There's also It must be an acknowledgement of the global

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[SPEAKER_1] ramifications of that.

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[SPEAKER_1] And that we do.

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[SPEAKER_1] privilege living here in the benefit from living here in the global

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[SPEAKER_5] Thank you for your perspective on public health.

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[SPEAKER_5] The intersectionality of health is very much in line with what we study as well.

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[SPEAKER_5] So it's cool to hear about how that intersects with your work.

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[SPEAKER_5] How public health shows up,

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[SPEAKER_5] as well as more of this global perspective.

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[SPEAKER_5] We also do study global health.

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[SPEAKER_5] And I think that the themes that you mentioned— of us living in the

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[SPEAKER_5] like foreign aid and global public health programs—interest me as well.

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[SPEAKER_5] It's interesting to hear your perspective on that as well.

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[SPEAKER_5] But I think moving on to the next question,

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[SPEAKER_5] I just wanted to ask if you've seen any changes or impacts that you

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[SPEAKER_1] Oh,

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[SPEAKER_1] that's such a nice question.

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[SPEAKER_1] It's really moving when working at the museum and over time building

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[SPEAKER_1] the meaningful relationships I have.

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[SPEAKER_1] been making with regulars who come every week.

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[SPEAKER_1] And.

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00:22:49.790 --> 00:22:53.470
[SPEAKER_1] I started saying, 'you can call me Miss Maya' as a joke.

439
00:22:54.060 --> 00:22:56.000
[SPEAKER_1] And now they call me Miss Maya all the time.

440
00:22:56.020 --> 00:22:56.560
[SPEAKER_1] I'm like, 'ooh,

441
00:22:56.740 --> 00:22:59.840
[SPEAKER_1] you guys believed me.' But it is Miss Maya.

442
00:23:00.080 --> 00:23:02.520
[SPEAKER_1] And so it's really sweet.

443
00:23:03.290 --> 00:23:07.230
[SPEAKER_1] Building relationships with them and seeing their aha moments in real time.

444
00:23:08.100 --> 00:23:13.900
[SPEAKER_1] They're discovering and learning so much on a daily basis from how

445
00:23:13.901 --> 00:23:16.501
[SPEAKER_1] to be able to use scissors for the first time,

446
00:23:16.502 --> 00:23:20.662
[SPEAKER_1] to connecting with different materials that they may have been

447
00:23:20.663 --> 00:23:22.103
[SPEAKER_1] introduced to at school,

448
00:23:22.220 --> 00:23:24.880
[SPEAKER_1] but now they're using it in a different way at the museum.

449
00:23:25.890 --> 00:23:31.390
[SPEAKER_1] And they're—you see the light show up and spark in their faces that

450
00:23:32.110 --> 00:23:35.720
[SPEAKER_1] you're a part of their early development learning journey.

451
00:23:35.940 --> 00:23:38.760
[SPEAKER_1] And so that I think is what is most rewarding.

452
00:23:39.770 --> 00:23:41.130
[SPEAKER_1] Working there right now,

453
00:23:41.131 --> 00:23:43.761
[SPEAKER_1] in that I hope.

454
00:23:44.080 --> 00:23:51.178
[SPEAKER_1] And pray that these kids remember me when they're— in their older teens,

455
00:23:51.179 --> 00:23:51.371
[SPEAKER_1] in their teens,

456
00:23:51.372 --> 00:23:58.242
[SPEAKER_1] maybe young adulthood— and that hopefully I made a positive impact on them.

457
00:23:58.760 --> 00:24:03.300
[SPEAKER_1] Noticing if they were interested in using paint sticks one time.

458
00:24:04.110 --> 00:24:04.590
[SPEAKER_1] Oh,

459
00:24:04.890 --> 00:24:06.410
[SPEAKER_1] I actually have a really cute story.

460
00:24:07.280 --> 00:24:07.720
[SPEAKER_1] It's brief,

461
00:24:07.900 --> 00:24:08.100
[SPEAKER_1] but.

462
00:24:08.870 --> 00:24:10.870
[SPEAKER_1] There was one time a kid came in.

463
00:24:11.670 --> 00:24:12.170
[SPEAKER_1] And.

464
00:24:12.810 --> 00:24:16.790
[SPEAKER_1] he said he was so honestly Shane he reminds me of a little you to be

465
00:24:16.791 --> 00:24:18.951
[SPEAKER_1] honest he was so sweet.

466
00:24:19.560 --> 00:24:20.600
[SPEAKER_1] We're doing a project,

467
00:24:20.700 --> 00:24:22.800
[SPEAKER_1] making our own little mini me portraits,

468
00:24:23.100 --> 00:24:23.300
[SPEAKER_1] right?

469
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:24.200
[SPEAKER_1] And.

470
00:24:25.180 --> 00:24:26.920
[SPEAKER_1] We're using these acrylic paint pens,

471
00:24:27.120 --> 00:24:32.600
[SPEAKER_1] which a lot of the kids in their schools don't necessarily see as

472
00:24:32.601 --> 00:24:36.181
[SPEAKER_1] writing or art utensil because sometimes it stains,

473
00:24:36.380 --> 00:24:37.040
[SPEAKER_1] it gets messy.

474
00:24:38.460 --> 00:24:42.830
[SPEAKER_1] He starts using it and he goes, 'Wow,' he's like, 'This is so cool.' I love the color.

475
00:24:42.890 --> 00:24:44.530
[SPEAKER_1] I love the way it moves on the page.

476
00:24:44.790 --> 00:24:46.310
[SPEAKER_1] I'm so glad that you like it.

477
00:24:48.100 --> 00:24:48.980
[SPEAKER_1] Go do my rounds.

478
00:24:49.020 --> 00:24:51.120
[SPEAKER_1] I come back and he's drawing.

479
00:24:51.910 --> 00:24:55.050
[SPEAKER_1] So many different species of different animals.

480
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:56.860
[SPEAKER_1] And like,

481
00:24:56.861 --> 00:24:57.261
[SPEAKER_1] wow,

482
00:24:57.262 --> 00:24:58.122
[SPEAKER_1] this looks great.

483
00:24:58.123 --> 00:24:58.543
[SPEAKER_1] He's like,

484
00:24:58.544 --> 00:24:59.764
[SPEAKER_1] when I grow up,

485
00:24:59.765 --> 00:25:01.745
[SPEAKER_1] I want to be a biological artist,

486
00:25:01.746 --> 00:25:04.306
[SPEAKER_1] like a biological artist,

487
00:25:04.307 --> 00:25:06.427
[SPEAKER_1] you can be a biological artist.

488
00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:07.280
[SPEAKER_2] Again,

489
00:25:07.360 --> 00:25:07.680
[SPEAKER_2] thank you.

490
00:25:07.740 --> 00:25:09.720
[SPEAKER_2] I think being a transplant in New York.

491
00:25:10.190 --> 00:25:14.010
[SPEAKER_2] You don't really get the community sense and you're not as in touch

492
00:25:14.011 --> 00:25:15.411
[SPEAKER_2] with the environment you're living in.

493
00:25:16.310 --> 00:25:19.930
[SPEAKER_2] And I think that is something that's very important for public health.

494
00:25:20.010 --> 00:25:22.710
[SPEAKER_2] And that's something that we've been told over and over again in the court,

495
00:25:22.790 --> 00:25:24.350
[SPEAKER_2] connecting with your community,

496
00:25:24.510 --> 00:25:26.490
[SPEAKER_2] whether that's when you're doing research,

497
00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:27.510
[SPEAKER_2] talking with the community,

498
00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:30.310
[SPEAKER_2] making sure that they are aware of what you're doing and making sure

499
00:25:30.311 --> 00:25:32.091
[SPEAKER_2] that everything is being done ethically.

500
00:25:32.350 --> 00:25:34.170
[SPEAKER_2] And then publishing your results.

501
00:25:34.230 --> 00:25:36.490
[SPEAKER_2] How do you create programs that the community understands?

502
00:25:36.910 --> 00:25:38.950
[SPEAKER_2] And I guess the root of the question is,

503
00:25:39.210 --> 00:25:41.510
[SPEAKER_2] as someone who is so in touch with the community,

504
00:25:41.610 --> 00:25:43.510
[SPEAKER_2] is working to really improve their community.

505
00:25:44.290 --> 00:25:47.910
[SPEAKER_2] What can we as students or young professionals do to tap into the

506
00:25:47.911 --> 00:25:50.651
[SPEAKER_2] community and ensure that the work we're doing is community focused?

507
00:25:51.050 --> 00:25:54.970
[SPEAKER_2] And then how do we go from just being a part of the community to

508
00:25:54.971 --> 00:25:56.351
[SPEAKER_2] being a leader within the community?

509
00:25:57.150 --> 00:26:02.890
[SPEAKER_1] I really love that question because I've been asked it in different forms.

510
00:26:04.320 --> 00:26:04.900
[SPEAKER_1] My answer.

511
00:26:05.760 --> 00:26:08.980
[SPEAKER_1] Always stays the same and that Get to know your neighbors.

512
00:26:09.280 --> 00:26:15.680
[SPEAKER_1] There's so few New Yorkers who actually know who live in their building,

513
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:17.300
[SPEAKER_1] live next door to them.

514
00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:21.420
[SPEAKER_1] I think what's really important to solidify those long-lasting

515
00:26:21.990 --> 00:26:28.530
[SPEAKER_1] coalitions within your own community is to be a helping hand in service.

516
00:26:29.700 --> 00:26:31.920
[SPEAKER_1] If you see your neighbor struggling with carrying groceries,

517
00:26:32.260 --> 00:26:33.440
[SPEAKER_1] help them carry it.

518
00:26:33.540 --> 00:26:35.680
[SPEAKER_1] It doesn't have to be spectacular.

519
00:26:36.670 --> 00:26:38.230
[SPEAKER_1] The work doesn't have to be.

520
00:26:38.950 --> 00:26:41.270
[SPEAKER_1] Something that goes on a plaque.

521
00:26:41.430 --> 00:26:46.880
[SPEAKER_1] I think that's what really confused it or obscured the optics of

522
00:26:46.881 --> 00:26:53.251
[SPEAKER_1] community organizing right now in the late 21st century and that everything also.

523
00:26:54.040 --> 00:26:54.960
[SPEAKER_1] Seems hyper,

524
00:26:55.910 --> 00:26:56.250
[SPEAKER_1] I don't know,

525
00:26:56.310 --> 00:26:58.690
[SPEAKER_1] hyper exaggerated and that.

526
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.340
[SPEAKER_1] We see from our phones the types of meaningful work that people do,

527
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:09.660
[SPEAKER_1] but it also sets an unrealistic standard for what we can offer on a daily basis.

528
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.260
[SPEAKER_1] And so I think,

529
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:16.940
[SPEAKER_1] especially as someone who's coming outside of the state and living here too.

530
00:27:17.140 --> 00:27:21.920
[SPEAKER_1] And I have so many friends who I've grown so close to who are also

531
00:27:22.780 --> 00:27:23.700
[SPEAKER_1] transplants in New York.

532
00:27:24.750 --> 00:27:30.880
[SPEAKER_1] I think recognizing—not only that—but that you're most likely living

533
00:27:30.881 --> 00:27:37.111
[SPEAKER_1] on land that someone has been displaced from and has had

534
00:27:37.112 --> 00:27:39.032
[SPEAKER_1] intergenerational connections to.

535
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.000
[SPEAKER_1] And for those who are.

536
00:27:43.140 --> 00:27:45.340
[SPEAKER_1] Still living there because it's far and few between,

537
00:27:45.341 --> 00:27:49.891
[SPEAKER_1] but there are still families who live in the neighborhoods in which

538
00:27:49.892 --> 00:27:51.882
[SPEAKER_1] they're grandfathers or great-grandfathers.

539
00:27:51.883 --> 00:27:54.283
[SPEAKER_1] They came and settled.

540
00:27:55.970 --> 00:28:00.140
[SPEAKER_1] I think also there needs to be not only conversations and in

541
00:28:00.141 --> 00:28:02.951
[SPEAKER_1] building that social connection,

542
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:09.570
[SPEAKER_1] but also even myself as someone whose parents have my grandfather

543
00:28:09.571 --> 00:28:13.821
[SPEAKER_1] came here in 19-56 or something like that.

544
00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:18.770
[SPEAKER_1] And he came in lower Manhattan as a dishwasher at first.

545
00:28:18.990 --> 00:28:26.350
[SPEAKER_1] Also recognizing that he too and us as well as his descendants are settlers,

546
00:28:26.370 --> 00:28:26.690
[SPEAKER_1] too,

547
00:28:26.850 --> 00:28:27.690
[SPEAKER_1] on this land.

548
00:28:28.030 --> 00:28:28.590
[SPEAKER_1] And so.

549
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.260
[SPEAKER_1] Although I'll rep myself as a native New Yorker,

550
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.640
[SPEAKER_1] I'm not native to this land in particular.

551
00:28:36.860 --> 00:28:38.600
[SPEAKER_1] And so also situating,

552
00:28:38.601 --> 00:28:39.221
[SPEAKER_1] I think the.

553
00:28:40.110 --> 00:28:42.290
[SPEAKER_1] Place and when we're talking about place-based belonging,

554
00:28:42.291 --> 00:28:43.371
[SPEAKER_1] and how.

555
00:28:44.350 --> 00:28:49.540
[SPEAKER_1] We not only have a duty to serve our neighbors and for the people

556
00:28:49.541 --> 00:28:50.481
[SPEAKER_1] who have been living here,

557
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:52.200
[SPEAKER_1] but also for the people that,

558
00:28:52.970 --> 00:28:55.330
[SPEAKER_1] in the thousands and millions of people,

559
00:28:55.331 --> 00:28:59.331
[SPEAKER_1] who are unnamed and unknown to us,

560
00:28:59.332 --> 00:29:00.912
[SPEAKER_1] who came before us.

561
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:06.200
[SPEAKER_1] And have a physical connection to that land to understand the

562
00:29:06.201 --> 00:29:07.861
[SPEAKER_1] history of where you're residing,

563
00:29:07.862 --> 00:29:12.682
[SPEAKER_1] and trying your best to also reach out to your local mutual aid

564
00:29:12.683 --> 00:29:18.043
[SPEAKER_1] initiative or community organization that you find personal alignment with.

565
00:29:19.080 --> 00:29:20.280
[SPEAKER_1] And show up to a meeting.

566
00:29:20.320 --> 00:29:22.910
[SPEAKER_1] And if there's no organization,

567
00:29:22.911 --> 00:29:25.431
[SPEAKER_1] I guess— near you— freaking make your own.

568
00:29:25.432 --> 00:29:26.272
[SPEAKER_1] That's what I did.

569
00:29:26.273 --> 00:29:32.113
[SPEAKER_1] I'm like, 'Make your own.' It doesn't have to already exist for you to make a change.

570
00:29:32.114 --> 00:29:37.334
[SPEAKER_1] There's no prerequisite to wanting to help other people.

571
00:29:37.370 --> 00:29:41.430
[SPEAKER_1] The prerequisite is that you have sincerity and wanting to do it,

572
00:29:41.470 --> 00:29:46.865
[SPEAKER_1] not as a gesture of superiority and saviorism.

573
00:29:46.866 --> 00:29:51.531
[SPEAKER_1] That's what I'm doing this because I'm better than you and I have more resources.

574
00:29:51.532 --> 00:29:56.012
[SPEAKER_1] So I'm kindly doing this and reminding you that I'm doing this for you.

575
00:29:56.013 --> 00:29:56.573
[SPEAKER_1] No,

576
00:29:56.574 --> 00:30:01.514
[SPEAKER_1] I think it's: Asking yourself those internal questions and leading

577
00:30:01.515 --> 00:30:04.245
[SPEAKER_1] with as much humility as possible.

578
00:30:04.760 --> 00:30:06.400
[SPEAKER_1] And getting to know people for people,

579
00:30:06.401 --> 00:30:09.241
[SPEAKER_1] because There's the—oh,

580
00:30:09.242 --> 00:30:12.222
[SPEAKER_1] I'm not gonna get too deep into this— but I just sensed myself

581
00:30:12.223 --> 00:30:13.483
[SPEAKER_1] leaning into it more.

582
00:30:14.140 --> 00:30:14.480
[SPEAKER_1] And that.

583
00:30:14.990 --> 00:30:19.230
[SPEAKER_1] There's a very real violence when we are walking down the street.

584
00:30:19.800 --> 00:30:20.720
[SPEAKER_1] And we don't.

585
00:30:20.930 --> 00:30:23.050
[SPEAKER_1] Say hello to our unhoused neighbors.

586
00:30:23.330 --> 00:30:27.110
[SPEAKER_1] That's a very real violence that we're enacting on a daily basis.

587
00:30:27.350 --> 00:30:29.690
[SPEAKER_1] And I'm saying this first and foremost to myself,

588
00:30:29.890 --> 00:30:30.170
[SPEAKER_1] too.

589
00:30:30.540 --> 00:30:35.460
[SPEAKER_1] And that when I cross the street and I notice that someone is

590
00:30:35.461 --> 00:30:40.981
[SPEAKER_1] begging for help and I don't consider them as not only my neighbor,

591
00:30:41.040 --> 00:30:42.600
[SPEAKER_1] but as a fellow human being.

592
00:30:44.040 --> 00:30:44.620
[SPEAKER_1] That's where.

593
00:30:45.040 --> 00:30:46.120
[SPEAKER_1] the internal work.

594
00:30:46.660 --> 00:30:47.400
[SPEAKER_1] begins.

595
00:30:48.010 --> 00:30:50.290
[SPEAKER_1] What is stopping me from saying hello?

596
00:30:50.350 --> 00:30:52.510
[SPEAKER_1] Or even in Islam,

597
00:30:52.830 --> 00:30:56.470
[SPEAKER_1] the Prophet Muhammad said that smiling is a form of charity.

598
00:30:57.120 --> 00:30:57.880
[SPEAKER_1] even a smile.

599
00:30:58.860 --> 00:31:00.940
[SPEAKER_1] is an act of generosity.

600
00:31:01.420 --> 00:31:02.300
[SPEAKER_1] And so,

601
00:31:02.301 --> 00:31:06.001
[SPEAKER_1] rethinking and restructuring those Social.

602
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:11.800
[SPEAKER_1] relations and behaviors that we have— with not only people in our buildings,

603
00:31:11.860 --> 00:31:16.010
[SPEAKER_1] but people who don't even have a place to call home— is something

604
00:31:16.011 --> 00:31:22.091
[SPEAKER_1] that I think starts to move the wheels a little bit in bridging it from a very theory.

605
00:31:23.130 --> 00:31:24.790
[SPEAKER_1] intellectually motivated.

606
00:31:25.910 --> 00:31:30.810
[SPEAKER_1] source to something that is being lived and felt in real time.

607
00:31:31.450 --> 00:31:32.210
[SPEAKER_1] So feed your neighbor.

608
00:31:32.390 --> 00:31:34.490
[SPEAKER_0] That was so beautifully said.

609
00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:38.270
[SPEAKER_0] Just wanted to thank you so much again for speaking with us today.

610
00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:40.850
[SPEAKER_0] Do you have any questions for us?

611
00:31:41.340 --> 00:31:47.120
[SPEAKER_1] I just want to say a big fat thank you to Shane and to all of you guys,

612
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.700
[SPEAKER_1] because when Shane told me about this.

613
00:31:50.460 --> 00:31:53.700
[SPEAKER_1] We were in our local park and he suggested,

614
00:31:53.701 --> 00:31:57.751
[SPEAKER_1] and I was like, 'I would love to do this.' Thank you.

615
00:31:57.752 --> 00:31:58.492
[SPEAKER_1] I think it was,

616
00:31:58.493 --> 00:31:58.853
[SPEAKER_1] like,

617
00:31:58.854 --> 00:32:03.984
[SPEAKER_1] I got so giddy because I like to think that there is a lot of

618
00:32:03.985 --> 00:32:06.285
[SPEAKER_1] knowledge that can be shared and reciprocated.

619
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:07.100
[SPEAKER_1] And.

620
00:32:07.690 --> 00:32:14.050
[SPEAKER_1] It's also just so awesome seeing Shane rise in his own field and discipline.

621
00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:18.690
[SPEAKER_1] And so seeing also the community that he's supported by and

622
00:32:18.691 --> 00:32:20.991
[SPEAKER_1] producing the knowledge with is.

623
00:32:21.670 --> 00:32:28.060
[SPEAKER_1] is really cool to see not only as in a community organizer spotlight vibe,

624
00:32:28.120 --> 00:32:29.640
[SPEAKER_1] but also just as a friend.

625
00:32:29.760 --> 00:32:30.700
[SPEAKER_1] So I think that's awesome.

626
00:32:31.490 --> 00:32:31.870
[SPEAKER_1] And.

627
00:32:32.970 --> 00:32:34.470
[SPEAKER_1] I wish you guys the best of luck.

628
00:32:35.080 --> 00:32:35.600
[SPEAKER_0] Thanks so much,

629
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:35.860
[SPEAKER_0] Maya.